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  1. hello,

     

    I expected renaming and moving would copy the file (as there is no "save as")

    – wrong expectation :-}

     

    so, I accidentally deleted some project files given this misunderstanding, without saving a prior version.

     

    now I am trying to find the project trash – where hopefully these files still reside.

     

    in the Storyist-help it says:

    "To view the contents of the project trash, click the View button in the toolbar and choose Show Project Trash."

     

    but there is no menu item like that unver "view"-menu. I only find "empty trash" under the "file"-menu.

    so at the moment I can delete the trash but not access/view it.

     

    any ideas/help how I could get there, and look whether my files are still around? :-}

     

    thx!

    With regard to the missing 'Save As' function: If you press the option key when you are in the file drop down menu, the "Save As" option will appear in the list.


  2. I've been looking for a way to easily import existing documents into storyist. I'd been using MS-WORD but it's rather headstrong and hard to deal with.

     

    I went looking for a better candidate and came across Nisus Writer Pro. I downloaded the demo, exported the Storyist Novel Template to an RTF file and opened it with the Nisus Writer Pro trial version. It captured the styles in the Storyist Novel Template perfectly and didn't burden me with any of it's default styles like WORD does.

     

    It also has the benefit that it will load and preserve change tracking in MS-WORD files I receive from my Beta readers. I will play with it some more but it looks really good as a candidate to interface with Beta readers and end up with something I can paste back into Storyist with out screwing things up.

     

    Fingers crossed that this works.

     

    Fitchpost-5631-0-44407200-1433718270_thumb.png


  3. Hi Marguerite,

     

    I did what you suggested, and it worked exactly as predicted, as usual. But I also learned that if I want to see a yellow reminder in the text that there is a comment, I need to click in the manuscript window to make it active, then go to View>Show Comments and click on it. Then I get a little yellow reminder that there is a comment there. If I click on the reminder I see the whole comment appear.

     

    Near as I can tell, there is no option to show comments in outline mode. With the split view I can see the comment in the manuscript, but as soon as I click in the outline that goes back to the little reminder. I wonder if anybody has asked to be able to see comments while in outline mode? I realize they are there in collage mode but that's not the same thing. I'd like to be able to see the comments while I work on major revisions that require outlining to lay them out.

     

    Fitch


  4. Oh, one more thing:

     

    Please allow us to mass assign selected plot sheets (in any split window) to some single section.

     

    E.g. Keyboard holds 'Shift' + mouse click to select 8 plot sheets -> right click on one of these sheets -> choose assign to some section -> done.

     

    This will be so so helpful.

     

    Otherwise, plot sheets are generally too cumbersome to be manually assigned.

     

    Best regards.

    Hi circlecrystal,

     

    I like your suggestion, a lot. As I understand it, (I'm brand new to this software) the only way to assign a story sheet of any type to a section is to drag it to the section collage. I'd really like a keyboard alternative to dragging. If the plot sheet, and other assigned sheets, appeared in the outline under the assigned section so I could double click to open it in the outline window that would be very handy.

     

    Fitch


  5. Hi Steve,

     

    Near as I can tell, with my limited knowledge of Storyist, that process worked. I think I have a story file that is as 'compliant' as is possible given it wasn't created from scratch in the Storyist Novel Template. I changed the paragraph spacing and font in all the styles except the Section Separator. I changed the section header first line indent from 1/2" to 0". Other than that, the styles are the original Novel Template Styles and everything I try behaves like the User's Guide specifies.

     

    The sections show up in storyboard mode as collages with the gray background, the chapter titles as note cards on the corkboard background.

     

    Along the way, third bullet of step 7 in the previous post, there were a few times the original insertion of the "#" character followed by formatting it as a section separator, didn't take. At first I didn't understand why, then I discovered it was because there was one or more spaces to the left or right of the "#" character. I discovered that if one types any character anyplace in the section separator paragraph other than the one "#" character, the section-separator properties of the paragraph/character are destroyed and if one had a section title in the project view, it is lost. One must be careful not to accidentally type anything in the Section Separator paragraph. Good to know.

     

    That said, I loved the ability to have both the old and new versions of the story open at the same time. It made it very easy to scroll through the outline and copy/paste the outline data for each section into the new style-compliant version.

     

    I did discover that trying to add onto the very end of the outline is a trifle frustrating because the typing goes out of sight below the bottom of the screen and must be scrolled up to keep it in view. I don't see a way around that, but I mention it just in case an easy way to keep the cursor in view comes to mind that doesn't mess up other things. Everything is a trade off.

     

    Okay, back to writing.

     

    Fitch


  6. Hi Steve,

     

    I think I did it. These are the steps I followed:

     

    1. Exported the WIP document from Storyist as an rtf file. When i started I should have done that from Scrivener instead of importing Scrivener file. Importing the Scrivener file was a big, huge, mistake. Storyist can do it, but it will lead to a lot of frustration for a new user. Trust me on this, got the T-shirt. <grin>
    2. Opened the exported rtf file in MS-WORD. I didn't care about style preservation because the styles needed to be changed to match the novel template.
    3. Opened a new document in Storyist with the Novel Template.
    4. Selected all the text of the document in MS-WORD. Copied it.
    5. In Storyist, I clicked on "My Manuscript, then clicked in the document, scrolled down below the template text and pasted in the text copied from MS-WORD. All 70,000 words of it.
    6. Carefully selected all the text just imported, but not the original novel template text, and applied the style Section Text.
    7. Scrolled through the imported text from top to bottom and:
      • applied the style Chapter Title to all the chapter titles.
      • While i was doing that, the first section heading under the Chapter Title had the style Section Header applied.
      • Ahead of the next section I inserted an # and formatted that paragraph as a Section Separator.
      • The heading after the separator had the Section Header style applied.

    After all that, I selected and deleted the novel template text because it isn't part of my WIP. When I was done I had a document that showed collage like your pictures.

     

    Along the way I picked up a couple of things I'd like check:

    • First, apparently every chapter title comes with one 'included' section as 'standard equipment'. Subsequent sections need to be preceded by the # with the Section Separator style applied to that paragraph to be recognized. If there is a section header following section separator it can have the Section Header Style applied but it doesn't appear to do anything except allow it to be formatted differently than Section Text. Is this correct?
    • Formatting the text in sections as Section Text instead of Body Text allows Storyist to work as designed?

    I still have a lot to do to complete the transfer of the rest of the document, character, and research material to this new file. All the new "Untitled Sections" need to have their titles added. I'll copy paste them in from the other file. I also need to copy and paste all my outline and character stuff from the other file, but I'm going to wait until I find out if what I've done will allow Storyist to operate as designed with all it's feature working.

     

    I don't have any indispensable ego attached to this process, so if there is a simpler method that would give the same result, please let me know.

     

    Thanks

    Fitch


  7. Hi Steve,

     

    I have selected exactly as you show in the section picture and get corkboard in my WIP file. I get what you show if I use the same file you used - the one that comes with the software.

     

    Let me see if I can include a screen shot.

     

    Apparently I'm doing something wrong that's related to the style which keeps it from using the collage format, but I've no clue what.

     

    The section separator is Section separator style. Chapter is Chapter style.

     

    I attached one picture, I hope. post-5631-0-75484500-1432244324_thumb.png

     

    Fitch

     

     


  8. Hi Steve,

     

    While the relevant section, shown above, says how to view as a story board it does not say how to view as a collage. Nor does it say a chapter is displayed as the storyboard, a section is displayed as a collage. I had no idea that was the case until I read your post. You know how this works so well you see what you know. I don't.

     

    I tried to follow your instructions several times, but I'm apparently doing something wrong because I'm not having success.

     

    I set up to view side by side, vertical split to write while seeing the outline. I clicked in the right view, clicked on the chapter of interest and I saw the manuscript. I clicked on the outline icon in the upper right corner of the right view and I saw the outline. I clicked on the corkboard icon and I saw the chapter sections as note cards. Still in the right view, I clicked on a section in that chapter in the project view. I saw a blank area with corkboard texture. It didn't look like the collage in the manual but absent other knowledge, or instruction, I assumed it was the collage.

     

    In the project there are two story sheets, one of which I want to attach to the section that's showing as a cork texture (presumably collage) in the right view. I clicked and held down, dragged with out releasing to the corkboard appearing window. I saw a ghost of the story sheet respond to and follow the drag. When I got the ghost representation in the corkboard appearing area I assumed was the collage, and released, nothing happened. Nothing appeared in the corkboard/collage area. The section was still selected in the project view but nothing appeared to be attached to it.

     

    What did I do wrong?

     

    Fitch


  9. I've searched and read everything I can find in the User's Guide and frankly, attaching a section sheet to a chapter eludes me. I don't 'get' the collage paradigm at all. I can't even figure out how to get to the 'collage' state. Doesn't matter which direction I go through that swinging door, I end up back in the street.

     

    I read "Working With Storyboards."

     

    I clicked on the section I wanted to attach the sheet to, clicked on the 4 squares icon, which I think is collage mode (the other two are outline and manuscript), and then try to drag the sheet to it and it fails. The corkboard converts to the section sheet and ignores the section I want to attach it to.

     

    When I select the section in the project to which I wish to attach a section sheet, right click and choose to create a section sheet, it appears at the bottom of the list, not near or under the section where I want it. I can't move it there by dragging, it won't go.

     

    I did a search of the users manual on collage thinking I'd get detailed instructions on how to get to that wondrous state and it referred me back to the Working With Storyboards section that doesn't tell me what I want to know. I had less of a run around signing up for Social Security.

     

    I went to the view menu. No Collage option. I search 'Help' for Collage and get, referred to the User's Guide that doesn't have the information I need."

     

    I simply don't understand the mechanics that will let me take advantage of story sheets. Somewhere, somehow, there is a secret handshake, known to those with the 'right stuff', that creates collage mode, which appears to be how to use them, but I can't find it.

     

    I wish the User's Guide was written more as a nuts and bolts 'How To' than it is. The User's Guide reminds me more of advertising copy than How-To. It tells me all the wonderful things I could do if only I knew how, then moves on to the next feature I don't know how to use.

     

    What's missing is grunt level, item by item instructions, (click on this <shown in picture>, see this <shown in picture> then < and so forth> and they are not there, at least at the level that works for this newbie to Mac and Storyist both. Mentioning that a feature exists is useless if there is not accompanying detailed, click-by-click level, instructions on how to make it happen. For a newbie such as myself <I'm a customer>, how this SW operates not intuitively obvious, nor is the Software Help function or the User's Guide particularly useful.

     

    Marguerite, you should write a "Storyist For Dummies" book. There is nothing in the User's Guide or help menu that's helped me as much as your posts here. I'd stand in line, in the rain, on a cold dark night, in a bad neighborhood, to get a copy.

     

    Fitch


  10. To add to this:

     

    While I certainly understand the drive for a "one stop shop" application that can do everything you want to do, there's a place in the world for specialized apps that can really do something well. That applies both to Storyist, as an excellent research/organization/brainstorming/manuscript tool, and to desktop publishing applications like Adobe InDesign. I lay my books out in InDesign; it gives you full layout options for facing pages (so you could have you book title on one page, your author name on another page, or whatever), the ability to make custom master pages, full typesetting controls, professional print output options as well as eBook options, and so on. Sure, Storyist can add layout design features, but it will never be InDesign. And InDesign can add manuscript features, but it will never be Storyist. And that's not a bad thing.

     

    Orren

    Hi Orren,

     

    I clicked that I liked your post, but apparently my quota for 'Likes' is zero because I got an error message (could give a guy a negative attitude, not being allowed to like things).

     

    Anyway, I liked it!

     

    Fitch


  11. Hi Marguerite,

     

    Thanks!

     

    With your comment in mind, I went back through the settings and found the one I'd clicked (Settings>General>Close Windows when closing Apps) that disabled that feature. There are some apps, like MS-WORD, that are used for something different each time where it might become a problem, but for Storyist it's a feature.

     

    I'm surprised it's not settable on an app by app basis, but it is what it is.

     

    Thanks Again

    Fitch


  12. Hi Folks,

     

    I've been trying to figure out how to make Storyist start with my existing story, the one I was working on when I quit the program the last time, already loaded right where I left off. Each time it starts I have to go find my WIP. I know there must be a way to do this but I can't figure out how. I don't know what to call it to get to the right part of the user manual.

     

    Thanks

    Fitch


  13. I was surprised, so I did a little digging. I guess Microsoft made it free around November: http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/6/7163789/microsoft-office-free-for-ipad-iphone-android

     

    FWIW, if you use Office apps every day as I do for my job, it's worth the $99/year anyway. But it's cool that they're giving away Office for iPad!

     

    Orren

    Hi Orren,

     

    Yeah, the timing was magnificent. I looked in January and it had just showed up a couple of months earlier. I love it when that happens.

     

    I've been retired for 11 years (as of first week in June) from a 35 year career as an Aerospace Engineer (Rockwell International > Boeing). It was a time of radical transition in the workplace. When I started, there were no PC's, pocket calculators or copy machines. I wrote on a typewriter, used a slide rule, Curta (hand held 4 function hand crank mechanical calculator), and a Frieden (big noisy electric powered mechanical 4 function calculator). Computer analysis was done by submitting decks of cards, or sitting in an incredibly noisy room interfacing with the GE440 timeshare machine using mechanical teletype equipment - the noise in those rooms left me with my ears ringing. My program storage was punched paper tape. Runs were submitted and results came back the next morning. My secretary typed my reports onto ditto masters for reproduction. Internal letters the same. Everything outside the company went by snail mail. Little known fact, data bases were invented to track the parts for the Apollo Moon launch program.

     

    Beginning shortly after the introduction of Windows 3.0, my employer made it possible for us to have all the same SW on our home PC's as we had on our work PC's. Since I've retired, Having something familiar that works with the file format I need, is important, but it needn't be the latest and greatest. I need MS-WORD because all my beta readers use it and comment using the change tracking feature. I like EXCEL because I've used it for decades.

     

    The one time fee 2011 version of office works for me. Heck, I was fine with the version of Office we were using in 2004. So does the free version of WORD on the iPad. I read about it on the MS site but it was downloaded from iTunes. The copy of office was researched on the MS site but purchased through Amazon because it was cheaper.

     

    Both Storyist and WORD, on the iPad, are much better with an external bluetooth keyboard. Storyist benefits more than WORD from the external keyboard because of the need to use it in landscape mode where the on-screen keyboard covers up a lot of the screen. The external keyboard brought Storyist on the iPad to life for me.

     

    Fitch


  14. Without an Office 365 account, however, it is a free reader. If you wish to edit documents, you'll need the MS subscription. (which I have, BTW, and I think $99 for unlimited storage, mobile editing, and 5 installs is quite fair).

     

    Orren

     

    Hi Orren,

     

    I have free MS-WORD on my iPad, recently down loaded from Microsoft. It recognizes the drop box for file moving from the PC or MAC, and it allows me to edit MS-WORD files on the iPad. No subscription required. With the bluetooth keyboard, I have the whole screen available for either WORD or Storyist. Much better use of the screen than the normal keyboard.

     

    I have the $100 version of Office 2011 on this Mac. No subscription. It works just fine.

     

    Fitch


  15. Thanks, Steve...that was an excellent video. I wish I saw it earlier before I had to figure it out via trial and error, LOL! I highly recommend folks new to the program view this...it'll save you some time.

     

    One question on it, though:

     

    I noticed the presenter placed some text right after the # section break....right on the same line as the section break. I wasn't sure the real purpose of that as, wouldn't it show up in the final publication? Or is anything on the line after the # not seen in the final product?

     

    That's a pretty important part if someone uses that technique. Can someone also point out why you would want to do this? I'm sure it's painfully obvious but I'm missing the point at the moment.

     

    Thanks!

     

    I had the exact same question. I wish it had been answered. I'm still struggling with the details of how to use Storyist as it was designed to be used. I wish Steve would sit down and put together a tutorial video that goes through similar steps for both the iOS and OS X versions so we know how the application was designed to be used. Without that, we're on an easter egg hunt.

     

    Fitch


  16. Hi, RC,

    I can't help with the iPad part of the problem, because even though I use Storyist on my iPad, I am so acclimated to touch typing that I tend to do only the simplest things on the iPad. Almost all my work in Storyist takes place in the desktop version.

     

    <Snip>

     

    M

     

    Hi Marguerite,

     

    Just so you know, Logitech makes a magnetically attached keyboard that is as thin as the iPad and connects via BlueTooth. (It's important to match the keyboard to the model of iPad.) One can pop it off, slip the iPad into the slot so it stands up like a little monitor, and touch type very nicely. (You can do impossibly long text messages too! :) ) It adds very little to the thickness and weight of the iPad and functions as a cover. It's much more streamlined than the other cover/keyboards., and it's decent to touch type on. It will also connect with your phone though I've only used that feature once just to try it. (I had to have a touch type keyboard for my iPad - I learned to type in 8th grade on a big old Smith Corona manual with blank keys. That was in 1955. Been touch typing since.)

     

    Logitech makes a second BlueTooth keyboard that is full size which supports the iPad like it was a monitor. I bought the bigger one because the store didn't have the smaller one. I've written several chapters on it. I will probably get the smaller one for convenience when I'm traveling. (This iMac keyboard is great. I can type like crazy on it.)

     

    MS-WORD is available free for the iPad. I installed it as soon as the keyboard arrived. At the time I was doing all my writing on the PC and WORD was the only formatted file that was 'universal'. I now have Storyist on the iPad but haven't done anything with it yet.

     

    Fitch


  17. Hi Fitch,

     

    OK, the next time it happens, open Activity Monitor (it's in /Applications/Utilities) and take a screenshot. It should look something like this:

     

    attachicon.gifActivityMonitor.png

     

    It would be interesting to see the values for the CPU, Memory, Disk, and Network tabs. This will give us a better idea of where the time is being spent.

     

    Clicking on the "% CPU" heading will sort the apps by how much CPU they are using, and the "System" and "User" fields at the bottom will show whether the majority of the time is spent in the system or the app.

     

    -Steve

    Hi Steve,

     

    I'll do that. I just went and found "Activities Monitor." After playing with it a bit it looks a lot like the Apple version of Windows Task Monitor. I'll get a screen shot of it for you next time the SBB happens.

     

    I just learned that parallels and Windows 7 don't use much of the CPU. Neither does Storyist. The machine is on vacation most of the time.

     

    Fitch


  18. I took a look at the link about the SBB problems. If it makes a difference, the last two of the three times I had the problem, I could use other applications. If I moved the cursor off Storyist, it went back to pointer. I could use mail, or MS-Office applications (I didn't try any others).

     

    I haven't done anything with regard to sound. I have installed very few apps that didn't come with the computer. Scrivener for Mac trial version (I had Scrivener on my PC), Storyist, Aeon Timeline, Microsoft Office for Mac (WORD, EXCEL, and PowerPoint), Parallels, and one Windows application, WriteWay Professional (which works great in a Parallels virtual machine). I also installed Norton 360 in the Windows virtual machine. I didn't trust Windows with WEB access and no anti-virus software.

     

    Fitch


  19. Hi Fitch,

     

    I would be interested in knowing more about the spinning beach ball. It would be helpful to know what kind of Mac you're using and how much memory it has.

     

    The spinning beach ball is usually caused by some other process on your Mac using too much computer time. This could be a service like Photos (new in 10.10.3) uploading your images to iCloud for the first time, or the OS temporarily moving application data from limited memory to disk to make room for another application.

     

    Also, a number of Yosemite users (who are not Storyist users) have reported spinning beach ball issues. Do any of these situations sounds familiar?

     

    -Steve

    Hi Steve,

     

    It's a brand new (three weeks ago) iMac 5K, 24Gb RAM, It's running the latest update of the operating system, 10.10.3. I don't have any images on the iCloud. There were only two other apps open at the time, mail and messages.

     

    As an experiment, after I installed the RAM, I went to Finder, selected every application on the machine and had them open simultaneously. Then I started Parallels and opened a couple of Windows apps. It ran fine. It took about forever to get all the apps closed again.

     

    Parallels was not running either time I had the extended beachball experience. I thought I had a crash once, but probably I didn't wait long enough for the beachball to stop. It hasn't happened since I did the upgrade to the most recent version, but I've also changed the file structure radically as well - to one text file from like 40 after the original import from Scrivener.

     

    Fitch

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