nadinbrzezinski Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 well, finally went back to a piece I have been working on for a while This is a short story set in a future world after the end of the age of oil, and it is quite dystopic But that is not the point. This is around 4K words... and today, after three weeks of not looking at it, or even thinking about it, I went back and edited it You'd be surprised how that fresh set of eyes helped in the editing process It is not ready yet to go to market. It probably needs a couple more passes, which means another two months, but that will make it a stronger piece. And yes, that is the way things get better. Oh and remember, rumor has it Heminway edited the last chapter of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" thirty five times. So chin up, writing IS rewriting! Oh and a note on software... for revisions I now use neo office... it is strong at tracking changes, and for the mac it is free... look at open office for you win or linux based writers... and yes as long as storyist, or the rest of my other writing programs don't have it... I will use Neo... and pages implementation of tracking changes is weak at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemer Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 You'd be surprised how that fresh set of eyes helped in the editing process Since you're in the editing mood. . . I seem to have lost the interest of my proof reader. Want a job? Sure, it pays nothing, the benefits are non-existent, and the boss is a slave driver, but it helps to pass the time. Oh and a note on software... for revisions I now use neo office... it is strong at tracking changes, and for the mac it is free... look at open office for you win or linux based writers... and yes as long as storyist, or the rest of my other writing programs don't have it... I will use Neo... and pages implementation of tracking changes is weak at best Is that a feature request? It would be nice to be able to track changes so I don't have to do it all in my head, but I find it more inconvenient to convert to another tool, so I'll wait. IF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadinbrzezinski Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Since you're in the editing mood. . . I seem to have lost the interest of my proof reader. Want a job? Sure, it pays nothing, the benefits are non-existent, and the boss is a slave driver, but it helps to pass the time. Is that a feature request? It would be nice to be able to track changes so I don't have to do it all in my head, but I find it more inconvenient to convert to another tool, so I'll wait. IF It has been a feature request for many a specialized writing program Since it is not available I use NeoOffice, which will read in almost any format out there And no, storyst does not do it, scrivener does not do it, storymill does not do it, but neo office does, and it is FREE. Hell, it even has my other feature request... bookmarks which for whatever reason it is not considered important either Hey, you could spring for either Word, which I may install using crossover, or pages, whose implementation sucks As to editing your work... no thank you, but I will say this again, writing is rewriting Hey I can even copy and paste if need be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve E Posted June 27, 2008 Report Share Posted June 27, 2008 Revision tracking, bookmarks, timelines (remember them?), series notes -- I wonder if Steve could give us a feel for the timeframe we're looking at (especially for bookmarks ). Yes Steve, Storyist is a labor of love and love is eternal (labor). -Thoth. P.S. Nadin, it's probably worth pointing out that Ernest Hemingway committed suicide. Did his extensive revisions have anything to do with that? Maybe. It sure drives me crazy. More interesting though is that he did in fact publish several novels after his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadinbrzezinski Posted June 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Revision tracking, bookmarks, timelines (remember them?), series notes -- I wonder if Steve could give us a feel for the timeframe we're looking at (especially for bookmarks ). Yes Steve, Storyist is a labor of love and love is eternal (labor). -Thoth. P.S. Nadin, it's probably worth pointing out that Ernest Hemingway committed suicide. Did his extensive revisions have anything to do with that? Maybe. It sure drives me crazy. More interesting though is that he did in fact publish several novels after his death. Yes I could point that out... ah yes a nice shotgun... to be precise As to a time line for those things... can't wait for them, so using what I have in my machine to do what I need to do And I use programs as the mood strikes me... right now using storymill Next week probably storyist And I know that when I start my next RPG book, that will be scriv and yes I wish LSB (shhh a windows program) behaved under cross over far better than it does... which is NOT very well Then again I may surrender and install windows on this machine (there is a mapping program you see that will not run on cross over, no way, no how... not that it runs well on Vista either)... so I may just install it on this machine, which means parallels and probably that windows program.... Did I mention I can designate an OUTSIDE editor that will have a bookmark and tracking changes? That might be a solution for Steve... use an outside editor that already does that. Oh and steve, here is that dreaded windows program... http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ Yep, there are good things done over in the evil side. Oh and it also does timelines.. but believe it or not, those are better implemented in ... storymill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Revision tracking, bookmarks, timelines (remember them?), series notes -- I wonder if Steve could give us a feel for the timeframe we're looking at (especially for bookmarks ). I generally don't like to do that because I hope people make their purchasing decisions based on what Storyist does and not on what it will (or even might) do. I don't want to disappoint folks if the timeframes change. -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Hi Nadin, Thanks for the links and the suggestions. -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Oh and a note on software... for revisions I now use neo office... it is strong at tracking changes, and for the mac it is free... look at open office for you win or linux based writers... and yes as long as storyist, or the rest of my other writing programs don't have it... I will use Neo... and pages implementation of tracking changes is weak at best Storyist 1.4 and later can export .odt files (on Leopard), so this help with the workflow. Note that like other OS X converters, the Open Office converter doesn't import/export style sheets (RTF does, though). -Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadinbrzezinski Posted August 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Storyist 1.4 and later can export .odt files (on Leopard), so this help with the workflow. Note that like other OS X converters, the Open Office converter doesn't import/export style sheets (RTF does, though). -Steve Installing 1.4 as I type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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